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Addictions are epigenetic

ragemaxxed said:
There's no social, physical etc downside to beating your meat to pixels so it doesn't really follow the addiction model, it's fairly intuitive
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"There's no social or physical downside to drinking a beer here and there, therefore alcoholism doesn't exist"
:cage:
 
ragemaxxed said:
Do you have anything relevant to add?
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I outlined the flaw in your argument by applying its logic to another case where it more unambiguously makes no sense.
 
FemoidsGTFO said:
I outlined the flaw in your argument by applying its logic to another case where it more unambiguously makes no sense.
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A more pertinent comparison would be gambling, or something that doesn't have substances/the physical element involved... They're not really the same thing regardless
 
@itsallaboutpersonality is "porn addiction" a thing? What do you think? (let's disregard the already hypersexual individuals that are already doing it a lot and want some more and focus only on this specific type of "compulsive sexual disorder")
 
ragemaxxed said:
There's no social, physical etc downside to beating your meat to pixels so it doesn't really follow the addiction model, it's fairly intuitive
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Frequent masturbation lowers testosterone utilization:

Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-being: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.1677883

Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart disease:
vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu

Spermidine-rich foods may prevent liver cancer, extend lifespan - Vital Record

Spermidine—a compound found in foods like aged cheese and mushrooms—seems to prevent liver fibrosis, which is the most common type of liver cancer.
vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu

Masturbation decreases dopamine:

Postcoital Neurochemistry: The Blues and the Highs – Emotion, Brain, & Behavior Laboratory

sites.tufts.edu sites.tufts.edu

Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortex:

Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addiction:

Neuroscience of Internet Pornography Addiction: A Review and Update - PMC

Many recognize that several behaviors potentially affecting the reward circuitry in human brains lead to a loss of control and other symptoms of addiction in at least some individuals. Regarding Internet addiction, neuroscientific research supports ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Pornography consumption associated with mental health issues:

Pornography consumption and psychosomatic and depressive symptoms among Swedish adolescents: a longitudinal study - PMC

Background: The aims of this longitudinal study were to identify predictors for continued pornography consumption and to investigate pornography consumption in relation to psychosomatic and depressive symptoms among a group of adolescents in Sweden. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
tiktokfag zoomer said:
Frequent masturbation lowers testosterone utilization:
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Study is in rats and the rats only have sex once in this study, so it doesn't apply to addiction.
tiktokfag zoomer said:
Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart disease:
vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu

Spermidine-rich foods may prevent liver cancer, extend lifespan - Vital Record

Spermidine—a compound found in foods like aged cheese and mushrooms—seems to prevent liver fibrosis, which is the most common type of liver cancer.
vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu
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Spermidine is a ubiquitous, endogenous polyamine. In other words it's everywhere and you can easily get a ton of it in your diet. This argument is like saying sperm contains cells and we need cells to live, therefore ejaculating is bad. More importantly sperm causes prostate cancer.

tiktokfag zoomer said:
Masturbation decreases dopamine:

Postcoital Neurochemistry: The Blues and the Highs – Emotion, Brain, & Behavior Laboratory

sites.tufts.edu sites.tufts.edu
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Porn 'addicts' aren't complaining about being so low in dopamine that they're reliant on porn for it.

cbf going over the rest but I see no argument here.
 
ragemaxxed said:
The DSM 5 does not classify excessive porn consumption as a disorder or addiction. There's no social, physical etc downside to beating your meat to pixels so it doesn't really follow the addiction model, it's fairly intuitive

I can't believe I've spent the last hour looking at these retarded studies just so they can conclude with there is no conclusive evidence and made up "pornographic online porn usage" that's included in the population that's already addicted to sex and has plenty of it. Jfl

Too much yapping
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I don't feel like writing a response so I will not rebuke anything said here. I just respond because I want to state for the record that the DSM has no credibility.
 
Avarcel said:
Porn 'addicts' aren't complaining about being so low in dopamine that they're reliant on porn for it.
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Except they are.
 
tiktokfag zoomer said:
Frequent masturbation lowers testosterone utilization:

Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-being: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.1677883

Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart disease:
vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu

Spermidine-rich foods may prevent liver cancer, extend lifespan - Vital Record

Spermidine—a compound found in foods like aged cheese and mushrooms—seems to prevent liver fibrosis, which is the most common type of liver cancer.
vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu

Masturbation decreases dopamine:

Postcoital Neurochemistry: The Blues and the Highs – Emotion, Brain, & Behavior Laboratory

sites.tufts.edu sites.tufts.edu

Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortex:

Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addiction:

Neuroscience of Internet Pornography Addiction: A Review and Update - PMC

Many recognize that several behaviors potentially affecting the reward circuitry in human brains lead to a loss of control and other symptoms of addiction in at least some individuals. Regarding Internet addiction, neuroscientific research supports ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Pornography consumption associated with mental health issues:

Pornography consumption and psychosomatic and depressive symptoms among Swedish adolescents: a longitudinal study - PMC

Background: The aims of this longitudinal study were to identify predictors for continued pornography consumption and to investigate pornography consumption in relation to psychosomatic and depressive symptoms among a group of adolescents in Sweden. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Yet the fucking shlomos convinced me that it's healthy somehow
 
tiktokfag zoomer said:
still didn't disprove it's not an addiction ragemaxxed BTFO'd
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I'm reading through the last 3 studies right now

The first of thethree mentions the possibility that "porn addiction" may very well be a symptom of a broader/bigger problem (the pre exi reduced dorsal striatum volume & "brain power", the part responsible for cognition and other bullshit, which would be in line with overall impulsive behavior and what I was initially thinking; if that's the case, the people riddled with this specific addiction would also likely be abusing drugs, being prone to violent outbursts, etc or just straight up having impaired thinking, motor functions). The study notes that substance use disorder was screened for but then only mentions that the group was given some alocohol & depressive questionnaire to answer. A bit weird, unless I'm reading it wrong
 
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