chemicals is just a buzzword

[Nightmare]

i'm not saying you should do surgeries on your self, i am just saying it can be learnt and it is possible

Tbh the normie saying anything is possible if you put your mind into it has soem truth to it ngl

 

[Zodiac]

you can technically

There's no real evidence

there's many cases of people doing operations on them selves at home

If you're referring to that most recent thread of that user "performing" buccal removal on himself then it was larp btw

yes nigga but the knowledge can be found and learnt by anyone is my point

Again, the risk-award ratio isn't worth it

You're much better having a doctor diagnosing you instead of trying to diagnose yourself and probably end up being wrong

2% chance of dying vs. %60 (hypothetically)

That's why we have a professional for everything because people can't learn all info on their own (especially on the Internet)

 

[Zodiac]

Anyone can do surgery jfl

Prove me wrong then by successfully performing a surgery on someone and not being charged for homicide.

A professional surgeon is no god who cna’t make mistakes.

I never said that


Emphasis on "risk-award ratio"

 

[overeitherway]

You're much better having a doctor diagnosing you instead of trying to diagnose yourself and probably end up being wrong

2% chance of dying vs. %60 (hypothetically)

That's why we have a professional for everything because people can't learn all info on their own (especially on the Internet)

there have been LOTS of cases of doctors misdiagnosing people and if you want muh studies so bad here is one, almost 12 MILLION people are misdiagnosed per year in the us

The frequency of diagnostic errors in outpatient care: estimations from three large observational studies involving US adult populations - PubMed

Our population-based estimate suggests that diagnostic errors affect at least 1 in 20 US adults. This foundational evidence should encourage policymakers, healthcare organisations and researchers to start measuring and reducing diagnostic errors.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Nightmare]

Prove me wrong then by successfully performing a surgery on someone and not being charged for homicide.

Not planning to do that cuz I don’t have enough knowledge on how to do a surgery .

Emphasis on "risk-award ratio"

ok
Though an anecdotal evidence a user named carrotmaxxer on.org did a nose suregery I believe.

 

[Zodiac]

there have been LOTS of cases of doctors misdiagnosing people and if you want muh studies so bad here is one, almost 12 MILLION people are misdiagnosed per year in the us

The frequency of diagnostic errors in outpatient care: estimations from three large observational studies involving US adult populations - PubMed

Our population-based estimate suggests that diagnostic errors affect at least 1 in 20 US adults. This foundational evidence should encourage policymakers, healthcare organisations and researchers to start measuring and reducing diagnostic errors.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Who has a far higher chance of misdiagnosing? You or the doctor?

 

[overeitherway]

there have been LOTS of cases of doctors misdiagnosing people and if you want muh studies so bad here is one, almost 12 MILLION people are misdiagnosed per year in the us

The frequency of diagnostic errors in outpatient care: estimations from three large observational studies involving US adult populations - PubMed

Our population-based estimate suggests that diagnostic errors affect at least 1 in 20 US adults. This foundational evidence should encourage policymakers, healthcare organisations and researchers to start measuring and reducing diagnostic errors.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

this one also shows 18% of misdiagnosed patients were harmed or died

Diagnostic Errors in Hospitalized Adults Who Died or Were Transferred to Intensive Care

This cohort study assesses the prevalence, underlying causes, and harms of diagnostic errors among hospitalized adults who died or were transferred to intensive care.

jamanetwork.com

 

[overeitherway]

Who has a far higher chance of misdiagnosing? You or the doctor?

that's not the point, all i am showing you is doctors are not as perfect as you think, stop defending these jewish organizations that don't give two shits about your health

 

[Zodiac]

Not planning to do that cuz I don’t have enough knowledge on how to do a surgery .

So don't speak about it unless you prove me wrong

ok
Though an anecdotal evidence a user named carrotmaxxer on.org did a nose suregery I believe.

Link

 

[Zodiac]

that's not the point, all i am showing you is doctors are not as perfect as you think, stop defending these jewish organizations that don't give two shits about your health

My point is that the risk-award ratio is too high when you try to learn some info on your own, especially when it comes to using chemicals that can harm you.

If anyone could TRULY learn EVERYTHING on their own then we wouldn't have doctors (for all problems), professional mechanics, etc

 

[overeitherway]

If anyone could TRULY learn EVERYTHING on their own then we wouldn't have doctors (for all problems), professional mechanics, etc

ofc not ANYONE can learn everything, some people are too low iq etc but i am saying the information to learn anything can be accessed by everyone, and just because that information is out there doesn't mean everyone is gonna learn it

 

[itsallaboutpersonality]

they are pushed as higher quality products which are nonsense usually, i use a cheap vitamin c serum that's like 30 dollars (in my local currency) meanwhile retarded foids boy ones that cost 200, i am sure there's little to no difference

Foids always buy expensive, useless shit

 

[Papa Joe Stalin]

You surely don't wanna end up like michael jackson

With spots being darker than the other while others are vice-versa

I certainly want to end up like Michael Jackson.

 

[overeitherway]

Foids always buy expensive, useless shit

if i was a foid i'd just but male targeted products, it's the exact same shit just cheaper

 

[Nightmare]

So don't speak about it unless you prove me wrong

Link

Boohooo
I don’t plan to prove anything to you tbh.
Most things I speka are facts so I think you should just accept whatver I say.

 

[itsallaboutpersonality]

if i was a foid i'd just but male targeted products, it's the exact same shit just cheaper

Dumb cunts still havent figured this shit out

 

[ragemaxxed]

there's many cases of people doing operations on them selves at home besides this

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...

looksmax.org

@itsallaboutpersonality check this out

 

[Zodiac]

there's many cases of people doing operations on them selves at home besides this

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...

looksmax.org

It was confirmed larp lol

 

[Zodiac]

@itsallaboutpersonality check this out

It's not real

 

[ragemaxxed]

It's not real

Fiction or not the idea is still funny