clearing up misinformation about steroids

[Papa Joe Stalin]

Yeah. Sort of like if you jump head first off a bridge 150 meters tall you may experience death or permanent paralysis from the neck down. You may.

But really the argument being made there is just hilarious. "It says 'may'". Like no shit. As opposed to what? As opposed to "will certainly happen"? If I set my genitalia on fire I may become sterile. I may though, maybe I won't. If I drink a whole bottle of arsenic I may die. I may, but doesn't mean I will. Not everyone who drinks arsenic dies.

 

[overeitherway]

Yeah. Sort of like if you jump head first off a bridge 150 meters tall you may experience death or permanent paralysis from the neck down. You may.

just compare two different things theory, unlike jumping off a bridge the odds of certain outcomes from steroid us is completely different

 

[Papa Joe Stalin]

just compare two different things theory, unlike jumping off a bridge the odds of certain outcomes from steroid us is completely different

Just compare two different things my ass. It's the exact same logic. Don't try playing that game with me because with me it won't work for you. You're making an argument of uncertainty, and everything's uncertain. Doesn't matter what the probability is. If you wanna play the game of probabilities, then say jump head first from a height of ten feet. You may suffer paralysis. You may. Not that everybody will.

 

[overeitherway]

But really the argument being made there is just hilarious. "It says 'may'". Like no shit. As opposed to what? As opposed to "will certainly happen"? If I set my genitalia on fire I may become sterile. I may though, maybe I won't. If I drink a whole bottle of arsenic I may die. I may, but doesn't mean I will. Not everyone who drinks arsenic dies.

yea because the odds of you dying from drinking arsenic and the odds of you getting one of the mention effects from steroids one the out come is much more predictable, anyways i like that you are knowingly dick eating since you've admitted you have absolutely no clue on this topic, so this is shameless dick eating at it's finest

 

[Papa Joe Stalin]

yea because the odds of you dying from drinking arsenic and the odds of you getting one of the mention effects from steroids one the out come is much more predictable, anyways i like that you are knowingly dick eating since you've admitted you have absolutely no clue on this topic, so this is shameless dick eating at it's finest

That's not dick eating means, you intellectual midget. That would imply me trying to save somebody's ass in an argument which I am not doing. Secondly, you have no clue either. Your information is just stuff you read on the Internet, which I can do as well. I have the same authority as you. You're no academic. But even if that were the case, that doesn't matter at all because I've only made a point about your arguments being shit, because they are shit, which is completely fair regardless of what you're arguing about. I often hit quite hard many arguments people make because they're retarded, even if I agree with the position they're trying to defend. And thirdly, the odds don't matter. The point being made is the same. Again, if the odds are such a problem for you, then take the jumping from ten feet head first. Doesn't matter what the odds are; the point is that there's no such thing as a certain outcome you'll get from doing something negative, unless you jump in lava or something of that sort. The odds of whatever happens to you are irrelevant to the argument, because you're the one who brought the argument of probability in the first place, by referring to the "may" as if you were making a great point on the significance of that verb.

 

[overeitherway]

That's not dick eating means, you intellectual midget. That would imply me trying to save somebody's ass in an argument which I am not doing. Secondly, you have no clue either. Your information is just stuff you read on the Internet, which I can do as well. I have the same authority as you. You're no academic. But even if that were the case, that doesn't matter at all because I've only made a point about your arguments being shit, because they are shit, which is completely fair regardless of what you're arguing about. I often hit quite hard many arguments people make because they're retarded, even if I agree with the position they're trying to defend. And thirdly, the odds don't matter. The point being made is the same. Again, if the odds are such a problem for you, then take the jumping from ten feet head first. Doesn't matter what the odds are; the point is that there's no such thing as a certain outcome you'll get from doing something negative, unless you jump in lava or something of that sort. The odds of whatever happens to you are irrelevant to the argument, because you're the one who brought the argument of probability in the first place, by referring to the "may" as if you were making a great point on the significance of that verb.

cry me a river

 

[Papa Joe Stalin]

cry me a river

A river where your ancestors were thrown when no longer useful.

 

[overeitherway]

A river where your ancestors were thrown when no longer useful.

Did i upset the wittle baby? How tragic

 

[Papa Joe Stalin]

Did i upset the wittle baby? How tragic

You're upset by more than ten words of text or a dog.

 

[Slap]

this is irrelevant to my thread since you aren't asking a question to what was said, i'm assuming your trying to say they're dangerous, i never said it was completely safe, everything comes with it risks, cancer causing carcinogens are everywhere in our daily lives anyways and gyno rates are more sky high than ever amongst young men, heck half the niggas on this forum are skinny fat with man tits who probably have gyno anyways, so this isn't really the gotcha you think it is

I'm not trying to prevent you from taking anabolic steroids. I was just telling you that I knew a few ppl who had steroids destroy them mentally and physically.

 

[overeitherway]

I'm not trying to prevent you from taking anabolic steroids. I was just telling you that I knew a few ppl who had steroids destroy them mentally and physically.

for now i plan on just doing SARMS and some other hormone related substances, i don't plan on touching roids till i'm much older

 

[Kevin Logan]

most users on these forums are pretty anti steroid despite not having a clue about them or having done an ounce of research on it, so i'll be clearing up common misinformation on it

1. Steroids and synthol

now i'm sure you've seen those dudes with uncanny "muscles" that look more like water bags than actual muscle, those dudes aren't using steroids, well they probably are but not steroids alone, they're also injecting synthol, synthol unlike steroids do not increase testosterone, do not have any effect on androgen receptors, don't actually promote muscle growth and are purely for cosmetics and don't actually do anything, it's basically injecting oil to make your muscles appear bigger and have nothing to do with anabolic steroids.

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2. Muh balding

i see this brought up a lot, now yes steroids can cause balding, but some types cause it more than others and secondly you being prone to balding genetically is far more important than the steroids it self, if you are not genetically prone to balding then you are unlikely to with steroids, so stop bringing up this stupid faggot claim every time steroids are discussed.

3. Muh you'll become too muscular and uncanny bro

I don't think you guys realize, steroids aren't magic, most body builders are genetically gifted EVEN WITHOUT STEROIDS, they are genetic anomalies and are hyper responders to steroids, your skinny fat low T ass is not, you couldn't even become ronnie coleman tier with steroids EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO, so no, your not gonna become some muscle freak abomination with from steroids.

4. There's more to it than just putting on muscle

Steroids are not about muscle growth alone, your endurance, strength, stamina and performance also increases, and with SARMS there's other effects too, some even take them for the mental feel, though this is mostly with testosterone.

5. overall health

I know there's concerns with organ damage and such, most body builders die from years or even decades of extreme steroid abuse at high doses since adolescence, your gonna drop dead from a damaged liver and swollen heart after one cycle of steroids, but anyways there's multiple protocols to deal with the side effects of steroids to be put in place which i'm not gonna go to in depth about here cause this isn't a steroid guide.

Feel free to ask any questions if you want me to further explain anything.

Where did you copypaste this?

 

[overeitherway]

Where did you copypaste this?

incels: normies are ignorant you can't change their minds about anything, sheeps will believe what they want to believe
also incels:

 

[Papa Joe Stalin]

incels: normies are ignorant you can't change their minds about anything, sheeps will believe what they want to believe
also incels:

Lmao so true bro. So anyways, where did you copypaste it?

 

[itsallaboutpersonality]

just compare two different things theory, unlike jumping off a bridge the odds of certain outcomes from steroid us is completely different

You conveniently avoided spelling out the odds and hid behind semantics. Point is most people do react adversely to roids. Professional body builders who take them get assessed by an entire medical team who monitor aode effects. The average teenage retard who takes them isn't going to have access to such expertise.

 

[itsallaboutpersonality]

for now i plan on just doing SARMS and some other hormone related substances, i don't plan on touching roids till i'm much older

Roids aren't the shortcut you are looking for.

 

[overeitherway]

Roids aren't the shortcut you are looking for.

not a short cut, muscle is actually the last thing i want from roids jfl

 

[DarkTriadGymcel]

If you’re deadset on roiding, 1-2 test cycles for 12-15 weeks with a proper pct and use of an AI is more than enough. There's no need to overcomplicate it. At least wait until your 20s, 25 is best.

Sure there's health problems that arise from the use of anabolics, but they have a time and place, and have been able to dramatically improve attraction if applicable. I've noticed that lanky, tall guys have the greatest positive impact from blasting. Their skeletal frames are much harder to fill out naturally so the use of roids or peptides or sarms is able to give them more irl presence.



Of course, in these examples they have the genetic insertions that allows for such an aesthetic physique. On top of this jon skywalker might be dead from a heart attack caused by abusing tren (his unhealthy lifestyle also played a role but it was mainly caused by roids) and david laid has sustained multiple injuries, rotator cuff and lower back most notably, that wouldn't have occurred if steroid use allowed him to push past his body's limits (along with shit form).

However, if they took the necessary precautions: avoid abuse, safer training protocol, etc they could have maximized the benefits while minimizing the cons. These discussions require nuance beyond "muh health" "but muh big muscles" they have the power to tip the scales in your favor or not if you're smart about it and understand the weight of these substances and the physiological response on your body. Analyze the risk-to-reward ratio appropriately.

Tl;dr steroids can ascend you if you have the base and know what you're doing, otherwise you're going to hurt yourself or look ridiculous.

 

[overeitherway]

If you’re deadset on roiding, 1-2 test cycles for 12-15 weeks with a proper pct and use of an AI is more than enough.

don't wanna do test till i'm much older, i just wanna do mk677 and rad 140 (with PCT obviously) and AI

 

[overeitherway]

know what you're doing

most people get their information on roids from retarded clickbait youtube videos